United States Ambassador in Bangladesh Peter Haas has recently undertook
a visit to Chattogram. In an exclusive interview with Bonik
Barta’s Rashed H Chowdhury, the envoy talked about his
experience in the port city and shed light on different aspects of
Dhaka-Washington relations.
How did you find your experience in Chattogram? Was this
your first visit to Bangladesh's second largest city? What were your
impressions?
It
has been fascinating to come here. In fact, I grew up in what was called then the second
city in America which is Chicago, and which was referred to as the second city
behind New York but it was fabulous to come here and a great number of things
that I was able to see from the naval base to the shipbreaking, to meeting some
of the people that rigged down with from the embassy’s standpoint over the
years here in Chittagong and of course to eat some of the famous Chittagonian
food.
Can you share your insights from your visit with exchange
program alumni of the Academy for Women Entrepreneurs? Why do you believe
initiatives like these are important?
Meeting
with the women from the academy of women entrepreneurship was really inspiring
because not only we were able to look at the products they are selling and
talked through how this program has helped them identify what they needed for
their business. One of the most fascinating things is that almost all of them
said that they raise the prices, as a result of it, they worked valuing their
own time, and their own effort that they put into their products what they are
doing. So, this program is done with Thunderbird School of Management in United
States and so this links to how some of them opening their second shops, some
of them expanding exports. Then having the conversations about what it means to
the women and their families, and some of the societal resistance from family
members to them being entrepreneurs and how they have been able to overcome
those challenges with their family’s support, so the entire context in the
women economic empowerment in Bangladesh which has a truly impressive track
record. It’s overcoming these challenges that are the next hurdle in order to
get full women’s economic empowerment. So this is really inspiring meeting
them.
Your visit to the Ship Breaking and Recycling industry
must have been intriguing. Could you elaborate on your observations and what
fascinated you the most during the visit?
Another
one of the industries that is in total transformation here in Bangladesh so
there is, I think, a very bad reputation that Bangladesh has had over the years
about not taking care of the environment and this industry not being safe. So
we were able to…one of the facilities now is meeting all of the international
conventions on how we recycle in a way that is safe for the environment and
safe for the workers who are doing it. So seeing that level of commitment and
knowing that rest of the ship yards are slowly transforming to that same
standard is really impressive. We also had the opportunity to speak with some
of the workers who actually working in the ship breaking yards and with IPSHA,
the NGO that works on the training the workers on safety standards. One of the
things that is striking about that is that tremendous progress being made on
the environment, tremendous progress being made on the workers’ safety but
still a long way to go in terms of conditions for the workers’ pay, whether
they have prominent positions, how they protest, all of those things but
enormous progress and truly fascinating to see these huge ships being broken
down and recycled and Bangladesh taking a lead on that.
The United States is a significant development partner
for Bangladesh, with numerous contributions to the country. US is committed to
working closely with Bangladesh on matters of mutual interest. This partnership
is eagerly anticipated by the people of Bangladesh. What will be your primary
focus in the upcoming days?
I
would say that we will move with those practices as far as Bangladesh is
expanding our relationship. We currently have five (5) priorities we work on. I
think everyone knows that we work on human rights which is one of those issues,
we work on security cooperation, part of which is my visit down here for the
ship visit this time, we work on economics and environment, again this was part
of that, we work a lot on the Rohingyas which I know is closed by here and also
just basic resilience, education, and those kinds of things, climate change
that Bangladesh needs to, in order to stay resilient to continue to grow. So
keep focusing on those and again I will go as fast and as far as Bangladesh is
willing to go on these issues.
You have been performing admirably as the US Ambassador
to Bangladesh for the past two years. What is your primary evaluation of
Bangladesh's natural allure, societal dynamics, cultural richness, and its
people?
I
find Bangladesh just being endlessly fascinating. The combination of the cultures, the way it
is. I attended a cultural program last night. Just seeing the attention people
pay to Bangla songs, Bangla dance, traditions, having just compacts of Bangla
New Year, Eid. It is just fascinating, watching a country that is so quickly
developing still retain so much of cultural heritage and the fact that people
can talk endlessly about whether kala bhuna is better than mejban which is
better than kacchi biriyani and argue about which city has the best sweets. It
is just fabulous. I heard Kala bhuna beats all yesterday. I had kala bhuna
before, last night. I had beef with olive. I guess that is navy special.
I am eager to gain some insights on a particular matter.
What are your thoughts on the recent military exercise you observed? Any
particular aspects that stood out to you?
The
thing is it’s the 30th year that we have done this volunteer exercise. You
think about that. 30 times we have gathered our navies together and share our
best practices with the particular focus on a couple of things that are super
important to Bangladesh, super important to us. There is a huge focus on
humanitarian assistance, disaster relief, about maritime security, about safety
and security on the ships and shores. And when they were showing me, they were
showing me of course the slide shows from the past 10 or 15 years of all these
and I think it is just a really good symbol of partnership between these two
countries of how they can work together on issues that we both care about. I
just found that interaction to be fascinating.
I am curious to learn more, about education. How does the
Education USA program in Chattogram assist students in navigating the
application process for US universities and colleges?
We
are here right now in the American corner here in Chattogram Premier
University. Here only now we moved about a year ago and I am told that it is
always packed. One of the reasons is that we have Education USA here. As a free
service, I will say that again as a free service, people can come and get
advice on which universities and colleges are available in the United States,
get advice on how to apply to them, get advice on how to find scholarships for
their subjects, get advice on which ones are the best for them because there
are more than 4000 universities in United States and finding the right one.
There is a right one for almost everyone. So this is fabulous that we have this
here. Yesterday I have my Domino’s pizza with the Kala bhuna talking to number
of students who got accepted to different USA universities and just listening
to them about how they chose them and how Education USA helped them and their
enthusiasm was just fantastic. Again I will say that one more time because it
is so important all of the stuffs are free! Here they got the books and
councilors and everything, so I really encourage people to visit.
If you could finally share with me, I have heard that the
2023 country report on Human Right already published. What are your thoughts on
the report?
So it
is true that our annual Human Rights report was published yesterday. We do a
report every single year on every single country around the world and we strive
as to make it factual, it’s not us interpreting it to anything. It is just
listing the human rights violations as we have become aware for the years for
these countries. And in Bangladesh, the human rights abuse that we have seen
documented. We don’t do this saying that we are perfect, we are not. People
rightly criticize the United States for our human rights issues. But that until
you start looking into them, and trying to address them, they do not just go
away. I think the other thing that is really important and last week the
Atlantic Council which is a USA think tank issued a report where talks about
the link between basic freedoms, political, economic and legal freedom and how
prosperous that country is, and they found the more freedom the people have,
the better the economy is and so I think that is critical in the context of
Bangladesh that desired to be a developed country by 2041 as it is part of the
prime ministers’ vision 2041. It is just to realize that to get to that
prosperity, it is not all about mega projects and doing this doing that but
huge part of it is providing individual citizen a freedom to make their own
choices and that is what most important for the country’s development.